Can an agile shop every really score 12 on the Joel Test? [closed]

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Can an agile shop every really score 12 on the Joel Test?

I really like the Joel test, use it myself, and encourage my staff and interviewees to consider it carefully. However I don't think I can ever score more than 9 because a few points seem to contradict the Agile Manifesto, XP and TDD, which are the bedrocks of my world.

Specifically the questions about schedule, specs, testers and quiet working conditions run counter to what we are trying to create and the values that we have adopted in being genuinely agile.

So my question is whether it is possible for a true Agile shop to score 12?

[Note: I had this question closed on meta so I have re-posted here]

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